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Voir la version complète : DIR This is Cavalry Corps ...New oob for DIR .


Cav
13/09/2004, 15h47
Bon Jour

Dear Decision in Russia players , please upgrade your DIR oob .

I have tackled all the final little niggles with the oob . Speeds of some units, some defence values and command radius of some units have been bought into line . One or two AA values are changed and two or three AT guns had morale raised where I missed it before . None of it will change the game balance in anyway really , I did it for completeness and satisfaction that the job gets properly finished .

Please note if you study oobs my oob are painting sets so to speak not all the units in the oob are in the game.

Please send me an e.mail and I will send the file by return its still oob v4 so just replace the existing , if there is a game in progress make sure your opponent upgrades at the same time there should be no problem . The file has also been sent to Glen , Laurent and Steel God so that the download sites can be ( kindly ) updated .

:lol: Soon there is going to be something very interesting for Winter 42 fans ( not happy with the slog of R42 ...interesting though it is ) ... lets call it a Stalingrad style scenario for now !
2 massive Soviet Fronts with Strategy options for the Soviets and three German Armies. V. Paulus cautious and in the wrong position at the wrong time , you bet !! Big and playable .

Happy gaming

Michael

Cavalry Corps

Pretator
13/09/2004, 16h18
Qu'est ce qui dit , qu'est ce qui dit ???? :sm12: :sm12:
:sm12: J'ai cru comprendre que notre ami américain nous causait de l'OOB de la V4 , puis il mentionne Stalingrad pour les afficionados de 42 , mais qu'est qui dit ???

warson
13/09/2004, 16h20
un scénario dans le style 'stalingrad' , dans le genre massif .... :)

Pretator
13/09/2004, 16h22
C'est un nouveau scénar ?

Laurent
13/09/2004, 16h25
Oui pour l'hiver 42.
Mais sur quelle carte ? Rzhev ? :)

warson
13/09/2004, 16h27
oui , bientôt ....

Bébert
13/09/2004, 16h28
Pour Prétat: le monsieur il a dit d'abord qu'il avait fini de fignoler son oob pour DIR, et que ça ne changeait pas grand chose, mais que comme ça, c'était fini, pour que tout le monde soit content, et qu'il envoie les fichiers à qui qu'en veut.

Il a dit ensuite qu'il prépare un autre scénario opposant durant l'hiver 42 deux fronts soviétiques à trois armées allemandes, "un scénario style stalingrad pour bientôt", les allemands étant au mauvais endroit au mauvais moment, mais c'est jouable, qu'il a dit le monsieur... :wink:

Laurent
13/09/2004, 16h28
Cav did you send to me this new OB ? :)

Ok, on s'fout pas de ma gueul quand j'cause anglais. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bébert
13/09/2004, 16h32
PS: Le monsieur, il a pas dit que c'était sur la carte de Rzhev... :D Ce serait donc au choix du côté de Tcherkassy, Smolensk, Kharkov ou Kursk (il n'y a pas eu des combats à Kursk durant l'hiver 42?, et puis, c'est l'hiver 41/42, ou 42/43?)

Cav
13/09/2004, 16h44
Cav did you send to me this new OB ? :)

Ok, on s'fout pas de ma gueul quand j'cause anglais. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have been trying to send it to you but it bounces back , is there anywhere else I can send it ?
Another mail address ?
Michael

sval06
13/09/2004, 16h48
Yes, you can send it to:Svalbousquet@elonex.fr
please.
Best regards

Laurent
13/09/2004, 16h55
I have been trying to send it to you but it bounces back , is there anywhere else I can send it ?
Another mail address ?
Michael

here :
laurentlavai@free.fr

or :

laurent_lavail@yahoo.fr


Thanks :)

Moïse
13/09/2004, 17h19
send to me the new oob, dear cav.

mark88@wanadoo.fr

non je ne suis pas un panzer de la 88° version :mil: :momo:

sval06
13/09/2004, 17h38
Dear Michael,
I just received it.
Thank you very much
Regards
Stephane

PS: Vous l'avez ou dois je le faire suivre?

Pretator
13/09/2004, 17h42
You can send it to: jmpretat@wanadoo.fr
please.
Best regards

Laurent
13/09/2004, 17h42
Fais le suivre, j'ai encore rien reçu. :) Mici.

David
13/09/2004, 19h02
I'm late..can you send it to : davidgeraldine@aol.com

Please.

Gen. von David (8.Armee)

Moïse
13/09/2004, 19h31
bon l'oob de DIR V5, ce seras pour une autre fois, on change pas de monture quand on est au milieu du fleuve.

celui qui me fait un sabotage à coup d' oobV5 dans la partie que nous avons laborieusement recommencé, je vous prie de croire qu'il vas m'entendre. :evil:

mimi a dit que l'on continue sans rien changé sinon ca vas planter

Laurent
13/09/2004, 19h44
C'est pas l'OB V5, c'est l'OB V4 avec des valeurs corrigées.

Cav les a cité... tu peux rajouter l'OB sans faire planter le jeu. Ou alors j'ai mal lu et il a rajouté une unité, auquel cas, là ça plante.

Faut voir avec tes adversaires. :)

Moïse
13/09/2004, 21h59
le chef mimi a dit qu'on restait groupier sans bouger oob :sm31: même si risque minimal.

il suffit qu'une moindre nouille s'infiltre dans je ne sais quel programmation de l'un de nous, et lâ :sm27: moi je casse un durite.

Laurent
13/09/2004, 22h05
Il dit ça parce qu'il veut pas que tes T-34 aient 22 en hard killing. :lol:




Lolo qui imagine déjà Momo aller vérifier si les T-34 ont 22 en Hard killing. :twisted:

Pretator
14/09/2004, 06h58
Il faut que Cav nous en dise plus sur son scénar hivernal sur la carte de R42 . Date de sortie , où sera t-il téléchargeable ? Si c'est pour 2005 je me lance dans une campagne sur S41 ( michel,epalco,bolo je crois), si c'est pour très bientôt il faut voir .

Moïse
14/09/2004, 07h15
A bas la culture des untermenchens
le néo facisme ne passerras pas
vive le T34 à 22 en hard killing

armée rouge avec moi :sm30:

Cav
14/09/2004, 11h26
Hi,
Is anyone saying the T34 is now 22 hard attack ? I just checked it again and its 11 . Has anyone got an oob saying anything else ?

Michael

sval06
14/09/2004, 12h00
Hi Michael,
No, they said some of us wish that T34 has 22 in Hard killing.
They are fond off russian Army and discussion about values of russian tanks is a neverending discussion here.
Regards
Stéphane

Cav
14/09/2004, 15h16
Stephane ,
Thanks for that :) .
For a moment I had a horrible thought the oob was wrong !!

In fact 22 would be realistic at 500m or less when almost all guns of reasonable calibre and velocity can kill . However and I say it again PZC combat for armour is simulated at lets say 300 to 1500 yards . All axis armour whould never seek to close as they have the range advantage at say an average of 750 yards the T34 has a much reduced capacity but many axis guns retain the same .
I did look into it myself and I found the original design to be quite correct in addition Russian armour in an abstract way must always be limited for no radios etc etc . I the killing power was 22 Berlin would be captured end 42 .
The main argument for variation would be the defensive value as there are so many calculations that could be made , I think in R42 ( alone ) its 18 but I have retained it at 20 as I felt it was justified . I always felt the pz4 defensive rating was quite low but again when I looked into it I found its about right . The main reason why the PZ4 ( late ) holds its own against the T34 is the gun in ranged combat that's all . I said before in PZC I feel the T34 overall is better than the MK4 in all round use . For exploitation its better than any Axis tank .

Michael


Michael

Moïse
14/09/2004, 15h31
I says always there is a difference betwwen the 76,2 mm mle 39 L30/5 (V° 680 m/s) of opérationnal combat in 1941 and the the 76,2 mm Mle 40 L/42 (V° 960 m/s) of mid 42 > 44 opérationnal combat and in the pzc the évolution is to minimalist, often ridiculous ...

ok optical , accessory of turrets is bad but 11/1 or 11/2 .... harghh :sm20:

I want my T34 M43 at 14 or 15/1 hard killing ouinnnnnnnnnnn :sm1:

:lol: :D momo in crisis of unit value

Tortue Agile
14/09/2004, 15h41
:lol: :lol:

Cav
14/09/2004, 16h27
I says always there is a difference betwwen the 76,2 mm mle 39 L30/5 (V° 680 m/s) of opérationnal combat in 1941 and the the 76,2 mm Mle 40 L/42 (V° 960 m/s) of mid 42 > 44 opérationnal combat and in the pzc the évolution is to minimalist, often ridiculous ...

ok optical , accessory of turrets is bad but 11/1 or 11/2 .... harghh :sm20:

I want my T34 M43 at 14 or 15/1 hard killing ouinnnnnnnnnnn :sm1:

:lol: :D momo in crisis of unit value

Actually if the morale is B or above you are getting that value are you not I think its +20% = 13.2 ???. Now as you are a fan of the T34 I can tell you in the new game I have added a Soviet tank ace :wink: ( based on a real one ) , the unit is an abstraction of his presence its an A morale company and the Hard Value will be big ( remember its an abstraction to achieve an effect ) . I am testing it out now .
Also remember In my game DIR there are many T34 at B morale . So in an abstract way those of 41 / 42 are similulated to be inferior at C or below morale to solve this problem . The defensive value does not change so the killing power goes up with morale.


Michael

elpaco
14/09/2004, 16h35
:lol: Soon there is going to be something very interesting for Winter 42 fans ( not happy with the slog of R42 ...interesting though it is ) ... lets call it a Stalingrad style scenario for now !
2 massive Soviet Fronts with Strategy options for the Soviets and three German Armies. V. Paulus cautious and in the wrong position at the wrong time , you bet !! Big and playable .


Hi Cav,
could you please tell us more about the planned date of delivery ?
next week ? next month ? early 2005 ?

many thx :D

Moïse
14/09/2004, 23h40
hello cav sorry for my little crisis but we are here a old familt and i thank you can understand these little joke.

ok moral B give a best chance to hit but these moral is the increase of experience and moral force in 1943 in the soviet tank team. I made a distinction with technical capabilities of armement and really there is (little) a difference between early T34 (41/mid42) and T34 of mid war (end 42/1943 and after). just technically you appreciate between thse two type a increase of 30 % of hard killing capabilities.

good journey cav :wink:

Pretator
15/09/2004, 02h32
Cav wrote:
Soon there is going to be something very interesting for Winter 42 fans ( not happy with the slog of R42 ...interesting though it is ) ... lets call it a Stalingrad style scenario for now !
2 massive Soviet Fronts with Strategy options for the Soviets and three German Armies. V. Paulus cautious and in the wrong position at the wrong time , you bet !! Big and playable .



Hi Cav,
could you please tell us more about the planned date of delivery ?
next week ? next month ? early 2005 ?

La réponse , la réponse !! :wink:

Moïse
15/09/2004, 07h13
stalingrad, stalingrad, stalingrad, stalingrad, ... :sm2:

Cav
15/09/2004, 16h18
I hope to have the new scenario finished next month . It is a hypothetical game with a Stalingrad kind of situation it however not Stalingrad !!

Now before its released I will be happy to send it out to 2 persons :shock: to make a test play . After DIR was almost completed I did a lot of testing against the A1 and had two campaigns running . I made quite a few amendments after that so anything sent out would not be a definative version .

Michael

Pretator
15/09/2004, 16h45
Je viens de regarder la carte de R42 . Au 2/3 de la forêt , plus la neige , plus une situation type Stalingrad , oups ! Ca risque d'avoir du mal à bouger . La même carte version printemps existe elle ?

Tortue Agile
15/09/2004, 16h55
Je viens de regarder la carte de R42 . Au 2/3 de la forêt , plus la neige , plus une situation type Stalingrad , oups ! Ca risque d'avoir du mal à bouger . La même carte version printemps existe elle ?

Il suffit quand tu fais un scenario de changer le temps.... Le changement de temps se repercute sur la carte :)

sval06
15/09/2004, 17h02
Hi Cav/Mike,
I would be happy to test your new scenario when ready.
Regards

Pretator
15/09/2004, 18h25
Ma question sur la carte était idiote . :sm33:

Moi aussi je veux bien tester la bête . Please Cav .

Lolo j'imagine qu'il existe un bon mod pour R42 .

Tyrex
15/09/2004, 18h28
Ben oui il y a celui de Star tout betement

Laurent
15/09/2004, 18h39
Il est dans la section Mod.

Si non il y a celui d'Atkinson, mais il est chez Glenn Saunders.

Laurent
15/09/2004, 22h52
madame Irma Lolo me fait dire que le scénario de Cav va être sur la carte de Kursk' 43.... :wink:

Cav
16/09/2004, 07h03
Hi,
Thanks for the interest to try the sceario :shock: , when its at that stage I will post a messgae . Believe it or not I spend about 2 hours per day on it at the moment :!: . Its turning into a monster .


Regards
Cav

Bébert
16/09/2004, 07h37
madame Irma Lolo me fait dire que le scénario de Cav va être sur la carte de Kursk' 43.... :wink:

Hiver 42? Ce serait le pré-Kharkov 43 alors?

Moïse
16/09/2004, 08h12
j'ai plongé hier soir dans mes archives . il existe des scénars de campagne opportun encore à faire sur les cartes existantes.

pour les mini scénar de (10/15 tours)

smolensk oct41 début de l'offensive " typhoon "
smolensk été 44 début de l'offensive " bagration "


scénar de campagne sud ukraine été 41 sur la carte de korsun avec le fameux Boudienny maréchal aux moustaches aussi large que des portes manteaux. :D

Laurent
16/09/2004, 11h25
No problems i receive your e-mail. :)