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  1. #31
    Date d'inscription
    juin 2012
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    29
    C'est la probabilité improbable , la chance sur cent que cela arrive. J'en ai été la victime conte Pyrrhos, dans le scénario thousand -miles que nous avons joué. Où mon PA d'escorte contre toute attente s'est retrouvé envoyé par le fond, par un raid d'une douzaine de Betty malgré une CAP à 100% et une fatigue des pilotes de 20% environ(cela faisait seulement 2 jours que la CAP était à 100%). Bref la seul et unique fois, où les Bettys ont pu approché ma force de débarquement, ils ont réussi un coup au but suffisant pour mettre hors de combat mon PAe.
    Alors que les attaques suivantes sans CAP, j'ai réussi à toutes les repousser.

  2. #32
    Date d'inscription
    dcembre 2007
    Messages
    194
    Greg a vraiment jouer de malchance sur ce coup la. Je fais une grosse connerie car je pensais n'avoir affaire qu'as 2 CV et du coup je cherche un affrontement. Si on rejoue la bataille 10 fois je suis presque certain que je perdrais mes 3 CV et pas sur que j'en coule 3 en contrepartie.


    Dommage car il a su bien gerer ces conquetes et j'ai quand meme perdu énormément de navires dont pratiquement que des navires marchand.

    J'ai eu un coup de chance, et ce n'est meme pas sur un coup bien jouer mais plutot mal jouer

  3. #33
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    janvier 1970
    Messages
    4 536
    Pourriez vous afficher le rapport de combat pour comprendre comment cela a pu arriver.

    "il n'y a que deux espèces de plans de campagne, les bons et les mauvais. les bons échouent presque toujours par des circonstances imprévues qui font souvent réussir les mauvais. " Napoléon

  4. #34
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    dcembre 2007
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    194
    Il faudrait que Greg le poste. Je n'ai reçu que le tour de combat et pas le tour d'ordre ^^

  5. #35
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    mars 2008
    Messages
    90
    Tes CV étaient dans 3 TF différentes?

  6. #36
    Date d'inscription
    janvier 1970
    Localisation
    Verdun
    Messages
    3 649
    Morning Air attack on TF, near Laysan Island at 163,103

    Weather in hex: Clear sky

    Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
    Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

    Japanese aircraft
    A6M2 Zero x 34
    B5N2 Kate x 109
    D3A1 Val x 75



    Allied aircraft
    F2A-3 Buffalo x 9
    F4F-3A Wildcat x 15


    Japanese aircraft losses
    A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
    B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged
    B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
    D3A1 Val: 6 damaged
    D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

    Allied aircraft losses
    F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed
    F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed

    Allied Ships
    CV Lexington, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires
    CA Northampton, Bomb hits 1
    DD Hull, Bomb hits 1, on fire
    CL Detroit, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
    CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 3, on fire
    DD Humphreys
    CL Phoenix
    CA Chester, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
    CA Portland, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires
    CL Trenton, Bomb hits 1
    DD Flusser
    CA San Francisco
    DD Dewey
    DD Farragut



    Aircraft Attacking:
    8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    26 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
    Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    13 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
    Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    16 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
    Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
    11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    12 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
    Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
    6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
    13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
    Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
    10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    26 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
    Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
    3 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
    Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
    3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

    CAP engaged:
    VF-6 with F4F-3A Wildcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    (15 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
    1 plane(s) intercepting now.
    0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 14 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
    Group patrol altitude is 15000
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
    VF-2 with F2A-3 Buffalo (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
    Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 13000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes

    Fuel storage explosion on CV Lexington
    Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Lexington
    Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Hull
    Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Portland
    Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Enterprise
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    Morning Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 160,104

    Weather in hex: Partial cloud

    Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
    Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

    Japanese aircraft
    A6M2 Zero x 74



    Allied aircraft
    F2A-3 Buffalo x 14
    F4F-3A Wildcat x 10
    SBD-2 Dauntless x 54
    SBD-3 Dauntless x 54
    TBD-1 Devastator x 42


    Japanese aircraft losses
    A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

    Allied aircraft losses
    F2A-3 Buffalo: 3 destroyed
    SBD-2 Dauntless: 9 destroyed, 6 damaged
    SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
    SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 destroyed, 8 damaged
    SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
    TBD-1 Devastator: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged

    Japanese Ships
    CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
    CV Soryu, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
    CV Akagi
    BB Kirishima
    CV Kaga, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
    CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires
    BB Hiei
    CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
    DD Shiranui, Bomb hits 1
    CL Abukuma, Bomb hits 1, on fire
    DD Isokaze



    Aircraft Attacking:
    7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    10 x TBD-1 Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
    Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
    1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    10 x TBD-1 Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
    Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
    8 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    14 x TBD-1 Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
    Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
    10 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    3 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    10 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

    CAP engaged:
    Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    3 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 15000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
    7 planes vectored on to bombers
    Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    2 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
    3 planes vectored on to bombers
    Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    4 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
    8 planes vectored on to bombers
    Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    4 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
    5 planes vectored on to bombers
    Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    4 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 14000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
    12 planes vectored on to bombers
    Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    3 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
    3 planes vectored on to bombers
    13th Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    2 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
    2 planes vectored on to bombers

    Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Kaga
    Ammo storage explosion on CV Soryu
    Ammo storage explosion on CV Soryu
    Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Zuikaku
    Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Shokaku
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 163,104

    Weather in hex: Severe storms

    Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
    Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

    Japanese aircraft
    A6M2 Zero x 12
    B5N2 Kate x 40
    D3A1 Val x 17



    Allied aircraft
    F2A-3 Buffalo x 1


    Japanese aircraft losses
    B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
    D3A1 Val: 3 damaged
    D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

    No Allied losses

    Allied Ships
    CA Chicago, Bomb hits 1, on fire
    CV Saratoga, Bomb hits 2
    CL Concord



    Aircraft Attacking:
    4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    26 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
    Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
    14 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
    Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
    7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

    CAP engaged:
    VF-2 with F2A-3 Buffalo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    1 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 15000
    Raid is overhead
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 160,104

    Weather in hex: Light cloud

    Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
    Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

    Japanese aircraft
    A6M2 Zero x 31



    Allied aircraft
    F2A-3 Buffalo x 2
    SBD-2 Dauntless x 2
    SBD-3 Dauntless x 25
    TBD-1 Devastator x 7


    No Japanese losses

    Allied aircraft losses
    F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed
    SBD-2 Dauntless: 2 damaged
    SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
    SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
    TBD-1 Devastator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

    Japanese Ships
    BB Kirishima, Bomb hits 1
    CV Hiryu, on fire, heavy damage
    CV Kaga, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
    BB Hiei, Bomb hits 1
    CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
    CV Akagi



    Aircraft Attacking:
    2 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    5 x TBD-1 Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
    Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
    3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
    4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
    Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

    CAP engaged:
    Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    1 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 12000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
    2 planes vectored on to bombers
    Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    2 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 12000
    Raid is overhead
    Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    1 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 3000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
    Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    3 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
    7 planes vectored on to bombers
    Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    2 plane(s) intercepting now.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
    13th Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
    0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
    Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
    Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
    6 planes vectored on to bombers

    Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Hiryu class CV
    Fuel storage explosion on CV Kaga
    Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Soryu class CV
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Bilan :

    5 CV coulés
    1 qui ne rejoindra pas un port
    1 qui est sauvable sans poursuite de l'ennemi
    1 non endommagé
    "Tu vois, le monde se divise en deux catégories.
    Ceux qui ont un pistolet chargé, et ceux qui creusent.
    Toi... tu creuses..." (Sergio Leone, 1969, Le Bon, La Brute et le Truand.)

  7. #37
    Date d'inscription
    dcembre 2007
    Messages
    194
    Citation Envoyé par grisouille Voir le message
    Tes CV étaient dans 3 TF différentes?
    Oui j'avais mis mes cv en 3 TF

  8. #38
    Date d'inscription
    mars 2008
    Messages
    90
    Au cours du premier raid, les avions japonais ont l'air de s'être plutôt concentré sur les croiseurs ce qui a certainement sauvé les CV américains et lors du deuxième raid japonais, aucun Kate ne transportait de Torpilles. Lors du deuxième raid américains, les zéros n'ont pas été très efficaces malgré la très faible escorte de 2buffalos.

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